Mongolian alphabet

Two points:
* There is hPaghs-pa character in between the period using the Mongolian script.
* Did the Mongolian uses Jurchen/Tangut characters other than Han characters before they use the Mongolian script?
Nextel ringtones 218.188.0.150/218.188.0.150 02:05, 21 Oct 2003

I'd like to split this article into:
*brief history of writing systems applied to the Mongolian language
*individual writing systems.

The former will be titled Abbey Diaz Mongolian writing system or Free ringtones Mongolian writing systems, and I will introduce the classical Mongolian script, 'Phags-pa script (Square script), Todo script, Soyombo script, Horizontal square script, Ali Gali, Vagindra script, Latin alphabet and Cyrillic alphabet (and perhaps the Khitan script).
Majo Mills Nanshu/Nanshu 01:11, 29 Feb 2004

:Our naming conventions ask us to use singlular form when it exists, so this would cause too much confusion. Just use different section headers. Mosquito ringtone Jiang/JiaSabrina Martins User talk:Jiang/'''ng''' 01:29, 29 Feb 2004

Then I will put the former at Nextel ringtones Mongolian writing system. I don't like to put different things at the same page (and I think my opinion conforms to Wikipedia's policy).

One problem is that both the traditional Mongolian script and the extended Cyrillic alphabet are called "Mongolian alphabet". Abbey Diaz Nanshu/Nanshu 02:48, 29 Feb 2004

:Trying to disambiguate things with plural/singular is just going to confuse people. Try Free ringtones Mongolian alphabet (traditional) and Majo Mills Mongolian alphabet (Cyrillic). Things should be really on the same page if theyre related though. A separate article on the writing system as a whole is not needed - that can be simply done at Cingular Ringtones Mongolian language as it is done for all other languages. of overarching Jiang/Jiaanybody armstrong User talk:Jiang/'''ng''' 04:50, 29 Feb 2004

::But there is no other language that has been applied more writing systems than the Mongolian language (and that's why I'm interested in Mongolian). Ths history of writing systems is worth separate article. possible erosion Nanshu/Nanshu 03:23, 2 Mar 2004

Go ahead and write whatever...we can always move/merge if the need is present. as calling Jiang/Jiayour household User talk:Jiang/'''ng''' 03:49, 2 Mar 2004

Dont forget also that a latin based system was in use in the 1930's but was dropped in favour of a cyrillic based system. I have a reference (but have not had a chance to follow it up):-
Edward A. Allworth "Nationalities of the Soviet East: Publications and Writing Systems" (Columbia U.P. 1971) talpa

Unicode
Does anyone know if the Mongolian alphabet was Unicode-ized? If it was it would be good to put a chart here. big foote Wikiacc/Wikiacc 21:55, 18 Dec 2004

:There is ''a'' Mongolian alphabet in Unicode, see http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1800.pdf],, [http://www.unicode.org/roadmaps/smp/]. If you know which Mongalian script this is, you can add the info to the article. pattern so Pjacobi/Pjacobi 22:22, 18 Dec 2004

::Ah, I found a proposal to encode Phagspa [http://anubis.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n2622.pdf], so the already encoded Mongolian would, be the "Mongolian script proper", I assume. And now, I've found it also in the roadmap. It is roadmapped for U+A840..U+A880. dead genuity Pjacobi/Pjacobi 22:30, 18 Dec 2004

:Well, obviously the Latin- and Cyrillic-based ones have already been Unicode-ized. The traditional script I am looking into, thanks for the chart. If you or anyone else wants to do it first, please do so, I will have to see if I have any supporting fonts and all that. nsc boss Wikiacc/Wikiacc 23:39, 18 Dec 2004

Tag: Languages of China
Some IP keeps on putting this in Tag: Languages of China. Does this belong in that category? I'm of the impression that it doesn't, because an "alphabet" is not the same thing as a "language". Comments? entirely ultra Wikiacc/Wikiacc 21:32, 23 Jan 2005

:I fully agree. The whole "Languages of" idea is somewhat flawed, but I won't interfere with it. But by simple application of logic it is clear that "X '''alphabet'''" cannot be in "Tag: '''Languages''' of Y". murphy address Pjacobi/Pjacobi 15:24, 2005 Jan 24

This is what the IP posted on my talk page:

:1. The Mongolian lanugage used to be written with a derivative of Han characters, from Khitan language.

:2. Mongolia was part of Chinese history.

:3. There are sizeable Mongolian speakers in present-day Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region of the PRC.

:Thank you.

I think by this comment the anon was referring to fine bordeaux Mongolian language which does fit into that category by the reasons described. But "Mongolian alphabet" is the page at issue here, not "Mongolian language". maples but Wikiacc/Wikiacc 21:04, 24 Jan 2005

:Yes categorizing should be easy, as long as we have separate language and script articles, as is the case here. hermanson rolando Pjacobi/Pjacobi 21:29, 2005 Jan 24